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22 Jun 2020

What is your name? - Name

Andrew George

What is your organisation? - Organisation

Mr

Which of the following best describes the current or intended operations of your business? - Which of the following best describes the current or intended operations of your business?

Other (please describe)

Which of the following best describes the current or intended operations of your business? - Other

Commercial advisor to senior executive groups in the energy sector

Where are your company’s headquarters located? - company location

Australia

Which sector best describes your organisation’s operations in Australia? - D Electricity, Gas, Water and Waste Services

26 Electricity Supply

Which sector best describes your organisation’s operations in Australia? - M Professional, Scientific and Technical Services

69 Professional, Scientific and Technical Services (Except Computer System Design and Related Services)

Which sector best describes your organisation’s operations in Australia? - Other (please specify)

Commercial advisory services in the energy sector

Is your organisation currently a liable entity under the National Greenhouse Energy & Reporting Scheme - Is your organisation currently a liable entity under the National Greenhouse Energy & Reporting Scheme

No

How much hydrogen do you estimate you will produce in 2021? - How much hydrogen do you estimate you will produce in 2021?

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Beyond 2021 what do you anticipate will be your maximum annual production of hydrogen, and when will you reach that milestone? - maximum annual production of hydrogen

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Beyond 2021 what do you anticipate will be your maximum annual production of hydrogen, and when will you reach that milestone? - Year you will reach that milestone

Not Answered

How much hydrogen do you estimate you will consume in 2021? - How much hydrogen do you estimate you will consume in 2021?

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What do you anticipate will be your maximum annual consumption of hydrogen, and when will you reach that milestone? - maximum annual production of hydrogen

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Which do you consider more important for your Australian operations? - Which do you consider more important for your Australian operations?

Both are equally important

For the scheme you nominated above, what is the ideal date to have it in place by? - For the scheme you nominated above, what is the ideal date to have it in place by?

2022

For the scheme you nominated above, what is the ideal date to have it in place by? - Why?

Negotiating acceptable common terms for certification internationally would require a complex liaison and probably target only a small range of aligned first world economies in the initial stage. A domestic scheme could be established more quickly, but it's design would be more robust if it is informed by the views of other countries, to limit the level and frequency of subsequent changes to rules (a pet hate within the Australian energy sector)

If the ideal date was not achievable, what would be the latest date a certification scheme could be in place by without adversely affecting your Australian operations? - Why?

For most businesses (other than hydrogen project developers that are currently only viable in Australia with Government subsidy, there is no adverse effect in the absence of a certification regime, so a latest date is really only relevant to losing control of the system due to widespread hydrogen uptake running ahead of certification.

If both domestic and international schemes are important (Q7), should there be separate schemes or a single scheme? If there are separate schemes, what elements would be the most important to align and what linkages need to occur? - If both domestic and international schemes are important (Q7), should there be separate schemes or a single scheme? If there are separate schemes, what elements would be the most important to align and what linkages need to occur?

Separate schemes are most likely, but a closer alignment would nonetheless allow more readily for international trade in hydrogen to limit the problems of non-certification across borders through harmonisation to as much extent as possible between key markets.
Rules about electricity sourcing and feedstock sourcing are the 2 most pressing areas that need attention. Different nations have existing separate approaches to managing renewable energy and allocating CO2 emissions across end users, so understanding these differences would be a critical first step.

A certification scheme would measure and track the carbon emissions associated with hydrogen production. Are there any existing carbon accounting methodologies that a certification scheme should align with or adopt (e.g. the Australian National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting System?). - A certification scheme would measure and track the carbon emissions associated with hydrogen production. Are there any existing carbon accounting methodologies that a certification scheme should align with or adopt (e.g. the Australian National Greenhouse and Energy Reporting System?).

Australia has existing reference points for CO2 emissions in the electricity sector. The national greenhouse accounts is one, the surrender of Large Scale Generation Certificates (LGC's within the LRET Scheme) is another, the state by state reporting of regional (state) electricity grid average emissions intensity on a daily basis is another.
For smaller businesses, the SRES scheme (small equivalent to the LRET Scheme) is another reference point for methodologies.

And separate states have energy related emissions regimes that will relate to this issue as well.

One key question - for businesses with hydrogen production on site but 'behind the meter' so the electricity used in electrolysis is not separately metered, how would this be recognised and verified as being from a particular energy source? How would on-site 'behind the meter' battery use fit into these arrangements?

Are there any other existing Australian regulatory frameworks that might interact with a certification scheme? - Are there any other existing Australian regulatory frameworks that might interact with a certification scheme?

See above

What are the three most important features a certification scheme should have? - 1

Metering of electricity used

What are the three most important features a certification scheme should have? - 2

Agreed regime for recognising the theoretical source of the electricity

What are the three most important features a certification scheme should have? - 3

Readily able to be compared to schemes in other countries (to understand the differences and convert the certification results, even if harmonisation is not available)

What are the three most important things a scheme should avoid? - 1

Self assessment of input data to the certification process

What are the three most important things a scheme should avoid? - 2

Banking of any allocation of emissions sources from one year into other years, that can distort actual results

What are the three most important things a scheme should avoid? - 3

Double counting of zero-carbon or low-carbon sourcing to minimise the emissions level shown for the relevant hydrogen production.

Is there anything else you would like to bring to our attention? - Is there anything else you would like to bring to our attention?

The need to integrate the certification with existing energy market regulation, and create early identification of site-specific anomalies that should be addressed before implementation (especially on industrial sites)

Commercially sensitive information - If you wish your answers to be treated as commercial-in-confidence, please tick this box

No

Participating in the technical advisory group - If you would like to be considered for membership of the technical advisory group, please tick this box.

Yes

Which state government do you represent? - Location

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Are there other applications not listed above that you consider to be important? - Please list them.

Not Answered

If a certification scheme was introduced, governments would need to consider how it interacts with existing domestic legislation and voluntary frameworks. For example, certifying renewable energy content for hydrogen production would require considering interactions with the Large Scale Renewable Energy Target. Other examples might include emissions reporting, energy market legislation, or building environmental certification schemes. - Which legislation or voluntary frameworks in your state might interact with a certification scheme?

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Which do you consider more important for your state? - Which do you consider more important for your state?

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For the scheme you nominated above, what is the ideal date to have it in place by? - Select year, starting from 2021

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For the scheme you nominated above, what is the ideal date to have it in place by? - Why?

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If the ideal date was not achievable, what would be the latest date a certification scheme should be in place by without adversely affecting potential projects or policies in your jurisdiction? - Why?

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